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  • Merl
    Hopper research dept.
    • Apr 2021
    • 703

    Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

    SWELL Wakesurf - Big Buoy Ball Inflatable Bumper Ball - Great For Tie-ups and Boats with Towers The best way to protect boats tied up together! Easily inflated and deflated on the water.


    Decent starting size and the vinyl is thick (but not too thick, if it can be inflated by mouth). If it really is 2mm all over, how do you think it would do with adding plasticizer or just heat stretching? Rigging a handle would be simple...it could make for a good hopper. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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    Last edited by Merl; 25-03-2023, 17:51.
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    #2
    Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

    Plasticizer depends on the type of material. Works on CanDo but not Gymnic for example. If you get one, let us know about the bounce. What is the plug type?

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    • Merl
      Hopper research dept.
      • Apr 2021
      • 703

      #3
      Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

      Originally posted by frenchy
      Plasticizer depends on the type of material. Works on CanDo but not Gymnic for example. If you get one, let us know about the bounce. What is the plug type?
      Regular plug in a good spot. Not dead on the bottom.

      Assuming it took plasticizer OK, would the thickness pose a problem?
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      Last edited by Merl; 25-03-2023, 19:46.

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      • Merl
        Hopper research dept.
        • Apr 2021
        • 703

        #4
        Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

        Impressive.

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        • Guest

          #5
          Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

          I’m not sure if thickness would be a problem. I would worry about weak spots getting too weak by the plasticizer. I’d really like to know if you could overinflate by a few inches, leave in the sun, then take out some air after a week or two to soften it. Maybe soak it hot water in a bathtub then inflate?

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          • Merl
            Hopper research dept.
            • Apr 2021
            • 703

            #6
            Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

            You're right, Sun's vinyl is about this thick as these, which is why the HH is such a tank, but some of them had weak spots the plasticizer blew out.

            Soaking in the sun is not possible here so I'll have to use the bathtub, after getting an idea on how this vinyl behaves. Looks very rubbery in that Jeep clip but it's probably underinflated.

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            • Merl
              Hopper research dept.
              • Apr 2021
              • 703

              #7
              Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

              The bouy is here. Excellent quality. The material is thicker than any hopper but not as thick and heavy as real orange bouys. It is somewhat stretchy and will bounce but currently sits at 18" or so. It's fairly tight so I will leave it for a few days to see what happens. I seriously doubt there's any weak spots to worry about but it would take a very long time for a half gallon of plasticizer, inside and out, to soak into this stuff to make any difference.
              Last edited by Merl; 30-03-2023, 22:49.

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              • Guest

                #8
                Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

                Great! Can’t wait to hear how it stretches.

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                • Whale Rider
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2022
                  • 542

                  #9
                  Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

                  I have a 1mm horse and it can support me easily (73kg) but its is a not so flexible vinyl sheet anymore although its the same material just thicker...

                  So before use make sure you can life with the added stiffness....

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

                    Any update on the Swell buoy? Have you added any air or is it still around 18”?

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                    • Merl
                      Hopper research dept.
                      • Apr 2021
                      • 703

                      #11
                      Re: Input needed on 2mm vs 1mm thick ball

                      It's hard as a basketball around 24" with no hint of stretching to the stated 25" (yet), but it's a fine hopper around 22". It's going to take awhile before there's noticeable improvement in size+bounce. As it is, it's pretty much Indestructible.
                      Last edited by Merl; 22-04-2023, 16:03.

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